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Crankcase ventilation hose and rough idle

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Location and common failure modes. The crankcase ventilation hose is located between the intake manifold and the engine block. Common issues: the hose isn't reinstalled correctly after service, or it cracks over time. Problems it causes: whistling sounds, breather-system malfunction, and — as the case below illustrates — rough idle and drivability symptoms serious enough to be mistaken for several other faults12345678.

Real-world case — misdiagnosed for weeks after a thermostat/intake-gasket job. After a thermostat and intake-manifold-gasket replacement, one owner (Ксения) experienced: rough idle (RPM staying elevated), jerking on acceleration, a stiff brake pedal, and a non-functional handbrake in Park. A long diagnostic thread considered — and ruled out — throttle-sensor adjustment, the idle air control sensor, spark plugs not fully seated, missing electrical/ground connections, intake-manifold gasket misalignment, and a broken gasket seal leaking coolant into electrical circuits, before the crankcase ventilation hose was found disconnected — the actual root cause. Reconnecting it resolved every symptom9101112131415161718192021222324252627282930313233343536373839404142434445464748495051525354555615758592360616263. Conflict/lesson: multiple plausible diagnoses were proposed and pursued (idle sensor, spark plugs, electrical connections, gasket seal leak) before the crankcase ventilation hose was identified as the actual cause — after any service that disturbs the intake manifold area, checking this hose first can save significant diagnostic time.

Throttle response failure — traced to vacuum-system leak, not just crankcase hose. A separate but related symptom: the gas pedal becomes unresponsive on all pedals (throttle and brake) simultaneously, causing fuel-injection control issues. Likely causes: vacuum-booster failure or a ruptured crankcase-ventilation hose (consistent with the hose failures already documented on this card). Solution: inspect all vacuum hoses on the intake tract for splits or damage, especially the crankcase-ventilation hose; this may require removing the intake manifold for a proper inspection. A FAW service visit is recommended for diagnosis if the issue isn't found by visual inspection646566.

Hissing noise only when hot — loose crankcase-ventilation tube. A separate report: a hissing/whistling sound near the throttle-body area appears only once the engine is warmed up. Cause: the crankcase-ventilation tube (routing blow-by gases) under the intake manifold works loose or partially detaches; it may also cause a slight RPM fluctuation. No dashboard error is logged. A full fix requires intake-manifold removal (labor-intensive — see the dedicated intake-manifold-removal card), but re-tightening the connection from underneath may be enough676869707172.

Jerking at low throttle traced to a cracked coolant/intake tube near the thermostat. In a separate case, jerking in traffic when lightly touching the pedals was traced — during an unrelated thermostat replacement — to a cracked tube running from the thermostat to the intake manifold. Replacing the cracked tube resolved the jerking. Tip noted in the same thread: when refilling coolant, raise the hood and pour slowly to avoid trapping air pockets737475.

No PCV valve at all — the X80 ships with a dummy plug where a Ford Mondeo has a real valve. A detailed diagnostic thread establishes that the X80 has no functioning crankcase-ventilation (PCV) valve — the valve cover has only an empty housing with a dummy tube plugged in where the equivalent Ford Mondeo PCV valve would sit. This is identified as a likely contributor to rough idle/jerking around 1200-1500 RPM, compounded by the X80's electronic throttle pedal: ECU-to-throttle signal transmission has a perceptible delay (one owner reports that on light pedal input the throttle sometimes doesn't seem to open at all — driving with a very light foot can paradoxically feel smoother, "but it shouldn't have to work that way"), and under this theory the fuel/air mixture correction lags the crankcase-pressure swings enough to produce a jerk. Temporary workaround: partially constrict (pinch) the ventilation hose with a small clip, reducing flow by roughly 50% — one owner (Фаб) reported this measurably reduced bogging/hesitation on throttle tip-in and gearshifts, though some light throttle-off twitching remained; this is a single anecdotal report, not a confirmed fix. Permanent fix: source and install a genuine Ford Mondeo PCV valve (~1,000 RUB, RU market, June 2026, via Chinese marketplaces reachable over VPN; not listed on Ozon). Owners who installed the Mondeo valve and also cleaned the MAP sensor (see the MAP-sensor card) report reduced jerking and smoother AT shifting. A related design flaw noted in the same thread: the intake manifold sits low on this engine and accumulates sludge over time, and by ~140,000 km the EGR valve is typically fouled with oil sludge as a result (see the EGR card)7677787980818283848586878889909192. Conflict: one member questioned whether the missing-PCV-valve theory actually holds and whether a muffler/exhaust modification might be the real fix instead — not resolved in this batch.

Rough running and elevated fuel consumption in hot weather — same root-cause cluster. Multiple owners separately report the engine running roughly ("like a diesel"), with increased fuel consumption and rough/jerky idle around 1200-1300 RPM, specifically when ambient temperature rises in summer — despite no stored error codes and normal-testing sensors. This is attributed to the same crankcase-ventilation design flaw, intake-manifold sludge buildup, and a MAP/MAF sensor needing cleaning, all already documented on this card9394958788969798.

Intake-manifold air leak — smoke-test diagnosis. A separate but related case: no error codes were present, but an air leak was traced to the intake-manifold gaskets using a smoke generator (дымогенератор) — smoke visibly escaped around the manifold, confirming the leak point. A replacement silicone gasket kit (5 gaskets, for Mazda/Ford-compatible intake manifolds) costs roughly 500-1,000 RUB (RU market, June 2026) on Ozon; full disassembly of the intake manifold is required (see also the engine-gasket cross-compatibility card)969799100.

Ford donor part number for the crankcase ventilation tube. Consistent with the "no real PCV valve" finding already on this card, one owner (Сергей Елисеев) gives a concrete Ford cross-reference part number for the crankcase-ventilation tube itself (патрубок картерных газов): 1440473 (also listed as FMVQ PTP024589). Symptom pattern matches the rest of this card: a hissing/whistling noise from the engine bay plus fluctuating idle speed points to this tube being clogged or cracked101.

Cold-start roaring/rocking noise — cracked intake bypass tube, inherited from Ford Focus 2 — from the second Telegram group. A separate community (FAW BESTURN X80 group) reports a distinct but related symptom: a loud roaring/rocking sound on cold start or rapid acceleration. The likely cause given: a cracked intake-manifold bypass tube or hose — described as a documented issue inherited from the Ford Focus 2 platform (the same lineage discussed elsewhere on this card for crankcase-ventilation/intake components). The tube/hose part itself is inexpensive, but replacement is reported as difficult, requiring removal of significant surrounding components. An alternative diagnosis offered in the same thread: the noise could instead originate from the timing chain/tensioner area at the front of the engine, more likely at higher mileage, rather than the intake tube — the two causes were not definitively distinguished in this exchange102103104105106.

Where the community disagrees

  • A long diagnostic thread pursued multiple plausible causes (idle air control sensor, spark plugs, electrical/ground connections, gasket seal coolant leak) for rough idle and jerking after a thermostat/intake-gasket service, before the actual root cause — a disconnected crankcase ventilation hose between the intake manifold and block — was identified. Documented here as a diagnostic lesson, not an unresolved factual conflict.
  • One member questioned whether the "no PCV valve" theory for rough idle/jerking actually holds, suggesting a muffler/exhaust modification might be the real fix instead. Not resolved within this data batch.

Media

Photo shows disconnected vacuum hose issue related to the problem

Photo shows disconnected vacuum hose issue related to the problem

Sources

This page is compiled from 106 community messages. Every fact carries a numbered reference to its original author and message.

Last updated: 2026-10-29


  1. Эдуард Янонис (1292719479) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩↩

  2. Эдуард Янонис (1292719479) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩↩

  3. Эдуард Янонис (1292719479) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩↩

  4. Эдуард Янонис (1292719479) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  5. Айр (417465865) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  6. Эдуард Янонис (1292719479) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-19 · original message · ru ↩

  7. Айр (417465865) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-19 · original message · ru ↩

  8. Эдуард Янонис (1292719479) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-19 · original message · ru ↩

  9. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  10. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  11. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  12. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  13. Юрий Б (5151422974) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  14. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  15. Валерий (7161884851) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  16. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  17. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  18. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  19. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  20. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  21. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  22. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  23. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  24. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  25. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  26. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  27. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  28. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  29. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  30. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  31. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  32. Валерий (7161884851) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  33. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  34. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  35. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  36. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  37. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  38. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  39. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  40. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  41. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  42. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  43. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  44. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  45. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  46. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  47. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  48. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  49. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  50. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  51. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  52. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  53. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  54. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  55. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  56. Unknown (5265219211) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  57. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  58. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  59. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-18 · original message · ru ↩

  60. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-19 · original message · ru ↩

  61. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-19 · original message · ru ↩

  62. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-19 · original message · ru ↩

  63. Ксения (5427400666) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-09-19 · original message · ru ↩

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  65. Печной Двор (5216836218) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-11-11 · original message · ru ↩

  66. Эдуард Янонис (1292719479) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2025-11-11 · original message · ru ↩

  67. Сергей Елисеев (5607242007) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-18 · original message · ru ↩

  68. Сергей Елисеев (5607242007) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-18 · original message · ru ↩

  69. Сергей Елисеев (5607242007) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-18 · original message · ru ↩

  70. А5 (6173193905) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-18 · original message · ru ↩

  71. А5 (6173193905) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-18 · original message · ru ↩

  72. Сергей Елисеев (5607242007) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-18 · original message · ru ↩

  73. Валерий (7161884851) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-18 · original message · ru ↩

  74. Вадим Б (1010668202) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-19 · original message · ru ↩

  75. Вадим Б (1010668202) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-19 · original message · ru ↩

  76. Валерий (7161884851) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-19 · original message · ru ↩

  77. Валерий (7161884851) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-19 · original message · ru ↩

  78. Валерий (7161884851) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-19 · original message · ru ↩

  79. Валерий (7161884851) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-19 · original message · ru ↩

  80. Валерий (7161884851) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-19 · original message · ru ↩

  81. Валерий (7161884851) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-19 · original message · ru ↩

  82. Валерий (7161884851) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-19 · original message · ru ↩

  83. Che Guevara (5060300866) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-19 · original message · ru ↩

  84. Фаб (769398910) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-19 · original message · ru ↩

  85. Валерий (7161884851) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-19 · original message · ru ↩

  86. Фаб (769398910) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-22 · original message · ru ↩

  87. Фаб (769398910) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-22 · original message · ru ↩↩

  88. Marat (1580181374) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-22 · original message · ru ↩↩

  89. Валерий (7161884851) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-23 · original message · ru ↩

  90. Валерий (7161884851) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-23 · original message · ru ↩

  91. Валерий (7161884851) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-23 · original message · ru ↩

  92. Фаб (769398910) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-26 · original message · ru ↩

  93. Marat (1580181374) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-22 · original message · ru ↩

  94. Фаб (769398910) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-22 · original message · ru ↩

  95. Marat (1580181374) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-22 · original message · ru ↩

  96. Ильгиз (6675756352) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-22 · original message · ru ↩↩

  97. Ильгиз (6675756352) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-22 · original message · ru ↩↩

  98. Фаб (769398910) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-23 · original message · ru ↩

  99. Ильгиз (6675756352) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-22 · original message · ru ↩

  100. Ильгиз (6675756352) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-06-22 · original message · ru ↩

  101. Сергей Елисеев (5607242007) · FAW X80 🚘🛠🛞 · 2026-07-09 · original message · ru ↩

  102. Konstantin (426441727) · FAW BESTURN X80 · 2025-12-06 · original message · ru ↩

  103. Aleksandr (431512761) · FAW BESTURN X80 · 2025-12-06 · original message · ru ↩

  104. Unknown · FAW BESTURN X80 · 2025-12-06 · original message · ru ↩

  105. Konstantin (426441727) · FAW BESTURN X80 · 2025-12-06 · original message · ru ↩

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